Wednesday, November 11, 2020

Haley Reading Group: Black Panther, Chapter 4

 [Haley Reading groups Fall 2020]

There's relatively little action in chapter 4 of Black Panther, as this issue is devoted primarily to building storylines. Much of that is developed through conversations.

We have T'Challa speaking with his leadership council about recent events and next steps. There's a discussion between Ramonda and Changamire. We have a meeting between the Midnight Angels and Tetu. Then, T'Challa and Ramonda. Then Zeze Stane and Tetu.

Some reviewers complained that there is too much dialogue in some issues of Black Panther. Did you view it as necessary in this issue? And, beyond that, which conversation were you most interested in in this issue? Why? 

15 comments:

Peyton Payne said...

I feel like the dialogue was necessary to close the gaps before ending the chapter. The author put this all in here for a reason, as they may have a bigger plan that we do not know about yet. There is a good amount of dialogue that could be viewed as a hindrance to ones reading experience.

I was most interested in the Midnight Angels conversation. Mainly because I have never seen characters like this in a comic, as they are a separate team than the Black Panther but they also unite in some ways. For example, in Spiderman he usually works by himself.

Ayo J said...

I believe that the dialogue was necessary to end the chapter because it help to give a more detailed understanding the scene. It helps to show the conflicting ideas between T'challa and his mother, as this cannot easily be expressed with graphics only.

I was mostly interested in the conversation between T'challa and his mother, where she continued to encourage and enlighten T'challa, when he became hopeless. This helped T'challa to continue to take responsibility for his actions and be willing to make situations better for the nation.

Walter Carroll said...

I feel like the extra dialogue was necessary. It helps us as readers further grasp the ideas of the chapter that can not be expressed through the visuals. The conversation I had the most interest in was T'Challa talking with Hodari, in which Hodari says he believes Tetu to have been a student at Hekima Shule and that he believes Zenzi is dead.

-Walter Carroll

Kristian Beal said...

In my opinion, the conversations were necessary in this chapter because those they were key developing moments that helps the story progress. I had no problem with the conversations.

Furthermore, one of the conversations that I took a liking to was the one with T'Challa and his mother. His mother had an interesting take on T'Challa, stating that he has never truly given himself to his country. T'Challa feels like things aren't going well even though he's doing everything "the right way," and his mother is trying to get him to understand that his current mindset actually reveals that the people of Wakanda are a burden to him.

Tracy Long said...

The dialogue was necessary , it help glue the gaps before the end of the chapter . It helped and gave a more in depth view of the scene. I feel like with the dialogue its meant to be there it adds something to the story .

I was interested in the conversation with T'Challa and his mom , with that part it made me think of my relationship with my mom and whenever I need help she is always there to encourage me and bring me up.

Jared Willis said...

I personally feel as though the extra dialogue was necessary and important. The extra dialogue adds more background information and helps you understand things that you may not get by just looking at the images.

The conversation in particular that I liked most would have to be the conversation between T'Challa and his mother. T'Challa doesn't like the way things are but his mother is there for him. Her words are encouraging and understanding and helps reveal deeper thoughts and emotions of not only T'Challa but everyone in Wakanda.

-Jared Willis

Maurice K. said...

I say that all the dialogue is necessary to the story. It gives the readers about what is happening at different moments and parts of the world and keeps the momentum of the story going. The conversation I was most interested in was the conversation between T'Challa and his mother since it seems as if T'CHalla had lost all his hope while the mother gave him reasons why he did not lose it and what he need to get it back.

Philip Bowen said...

I believe that the extra dialogue was necessary to the chapter. The dialogue helps us understand the scene and the ideas and conflicts of the leaders in Wakanda. The conversation that was most interesting was between T'Challa and his mother because of his mom reassuring him that the can make things better for his country and that he can't carry everything on his shoulder.

-Philip Bowen

Unknown said...

I believe that all of the extra dialogue in the end was most definitely necessary. It helped us get a more deep understanding about what is truly going on in the country and foreshadows that something big is about to happen. The conversation most interesting to me was between T'Challa and his mother, because T'Challa thought that he has already done everything that he could and that there was nothing more that he could give to the country, but she was reminding him about different things he could do to give himself to the country and do more.

-Richard Haley

Anonymous said...

I feel like the dialogue is necessary because it does the job of helping us readers to fully u ferts and what is going on. I think the conversation between T’Challa and his mother is the most interesting because she was letting him know that she is there for him and supports him. I felt this conversation on a personal level.

-Kenyon Davis 11/16/20

Byron Coulter said...

I think it is necessary to have that dialog because it helps the reader understand the context of what is about to happen in the later chapters. Its like a build up to what the climax will be and the reader will be able to understand the meaning of the climax when it happens.

The conversation that I found to be interesting was the one between T'Challa and his mother. I found it interesting and kind of sad that the King of Wakanda would be pessimistic about saving his own kingdom. Thinking there were no options when there's always another way. Luckily his mother reassured him that there is always another way to get his goals. Motivational conversations to main characters like these have a lot of significance to the chapters ahead.

Byron Coulter

Byron Coulter said...

I think the dialog is necessary because it helps the reader understand the context of what's to come in the later chapters. Its like a build up to the climax of things and when the comic gets to the climax, it will be easier for the reader to understand why this outcome is happening.

I found the conversation between T'Challa and his mother the most interesting. I say this because I found it appalling that the King of Wakanda would be pessimistic about saving his own kingdom, thinking that there were no more options left when there always is. Luckily his mother reassured him that there were options and he should keep going. Motivational conversations like these hold a lot of significance to the comic because it could lead to multiple very different outcomes based on what the conclusion of that conversation is.

Byron Coulter

Olufemi Idowu said...

I feel the dialogue is necessary to flesh out whats going on in the story and also essential to character development.

The conversation in particular that I liked most would have to be the conversation between T'Challa and his mother. He doesn't like the way things currently are but his mother is there to support him.

Anonymous said...

Although there was a lot of dialogue in the last chapter of the comic, it was necessary in my opinion and did a good job adding suspense and making way for the next volume. The conversation that was most interesting to me was the one between Ayo, Aneka, and Tetu. It surprised me to see the two making compromise and teaming up with a character like Tetu.
DeAndrea Moulton

Anonymous said...

I believe the amount of dialogue was definitely necessary because it ties up loose ends and also helps the story continue without many questions. I found T’Challa and his mother’s the most interesting because it feels like at the right time when he needed it, his mother showed him that he shouldn’t stop fighting after coming so far. This is significant because it was at a time in which the King felt there was nothing more that could be done.

Ethan Hinds 11/23/20