tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-595859379914711075.post7040638443553066093..comments2024-03-19T18:51:58.496-05:00Comments on Cultural Front: Haley Reading Group: The Big KillH. Rambsyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16862209871277442972noreply@blogger.comBlogger44125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-595859379914711075.post-27530059515510639262016-12-15T17:21:41.254-06:002016-12-15T17:21:41.254-06:00This article really opened up my eyes to how far a...This article really opened up my eyes to how far a country will go to protect its native creatures. I don't know much about New Zealand and to read about how hard the things would work to maintain their wildlife is pretty inspiring.Maxwell Chewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11589932104008423131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-595859379914711075.post-31619049222268232272016-12-08T14:47:17.837-06:002016-12-08T14:47:17.837-06:00The profound thing to me was the large area that w...The profound thing to me was the large area that was made for Sirocco, the Kakapo bird. On Page 171 it says that the reserve is in a 29 mile long circular fence. That is about 67 square miles all for one bird. They must consider this quite serious to make a whole reserve for this particular bird.<br /><br />David B.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13139802778915354086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-595859379914711075.post-27537109352046291372016-12-08T14:44:58.641-06:002016-12-08T14:44:58.641-06:00The profound thing to me was the large area that w...The profound thing to me was the large area that was made for Sirocco, the Kakapo bird. On Page 171 it says that the reserve is in a 29 mile long circular fence. That is about 67 square miles all for one bird. They must consider this quite serious to make a whole reserve for this particular bird.<br /><br />David B.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13139802778915354086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-595859379914711075.post-12630162517720275432016-12-08T08:41:32.070-06:002016-12-08T08:41:32.070-06:00After reading the "The Big Kill" its int...After reading the "The Big Kill" its interesting how New Zealand is classified as the most nature loving nation on the planet. Their idea of nation loving is protecting their native species by killing the "invaders". How does such a contradiction allow New Zealand to be classified as the most nature loving nation?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15472530413849370193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-595859379914711075.post-37981150080735330412016-12-08T08:31:31.809-06:002016-12-08T08:31:31.809-06:00I found it interesting that someone said, "Le...I found it interesting that someone said, "Lets get rid of the lot...Lets get rid of all the predators-all the damned mustelids, all the rats, all the possums-from the mainland". I don't think that people understand the role and importance of every animal that God has placed on this earth. It is not up to humans to pick and choose what animals we want to live here with us, based off of our own selfish opinions of them. There are already plenty of animals that are going extinct, either naturally or by human influence, so there would be no need to kill off more just because!Alexis Acoffnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-595859379914711075.post-56666157818589434382016-12-05T23:18:05.605-06:002016-12-05T23:18:05.605-06:00The irony was evident in New Zealand's effort ...The irony was evident in New Zealand's effort to use the Sirocco birds as a source of entertainment. Later, the population of rodents increased. This demonstrated the notion that ridding of certain animals can prove to be quite problematic. This can be found on page 176.<br /><br />Kellsey Hnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-595859379914711075.post-57943144412796928792016-12-03T11:53:28.530-06:002016-12-03T11:53:28.530-06:00On page 176 where it mentions getting rid of preda...On page 176 where it mentions getting rid of predators seems very ironic. If they get rid of the predators they have to deal with the smaller animals like rats that would usually be eaten by larger animals. Getting rid of the predators will only make other issues worse, such as using pesticides that'll effect other organisms.Shardai J-H.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-595859379914711075.post-64768726865373123722016-12-01T20:06:44.499-06:002016-12-01T20:06:44.499-06:00After reading Kolbert’s “The Big Kill”, the exterm...After reading Kolbert’s “The Big Kill”, the extermination of certain mammals to protect other species is ironic for several reasons. It is mostly ironic because Kolbert talks about invasive species being the issue but human intervention would make us the invasive species. On page 176, Callaghan’s quote, “and wouldn’t it be great if New Zealand had birds everywhere and we did not have to worry about rats?” insinuates that bringing in birds to let nature solve the rat issue is a good solution. However, that also is intervention and the species of bird is now invasive.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06926647560294551516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-595859379914711075.post-27954140290226968722016-11-28T11:43:24.143-06:002016-11-28T11:43:24.143-06:00I actually learned about the biodiversity of anima...I actually learned about the biodiversity of animals in NZ in one of my classes this semester. I found it ironic that they could change the population of rats with the introduction of bids (176). Introduction of a foreign species in any habitat has many unforeseen repercussions. There is a vast network of animal interactions that are mutual, so getting rid of one could harm another's life. Barry F.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-595859379914711075.post-83376268813831794222016-11-14T23:02:00.722-06:002016-11-14T23:02:00.722-06:00I find it ironic that on page 176 Callaghan says, ...I find it ironic that on page 176 Callaghan says, "let's get rid of the lot. Let's get rid of all the predators." Its talks about how all the mammalian animals are killing all the birds, so to fix that problem the people should kill all the mammals. If they create a change reaction then who will stop all the people from killing the mammals? To solve a problem the first idea shouldn't be to stat killing other life, there should be more peaceful approachable options.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00381729118239011375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-595859379914711075.post-36766452716332562222016-11-07T21:27:18.444-06:002016-11-07T21:27:18.444-06:00I have never even considered the vast array of wil...I have never even considered the vast array of wildlife that New Zealand has. The point I found ironic is that the rat infestation(Page 169) was worsened by banishment of Sirrico birds(176). A New Zealand citizen uttered in irony "...Wouldn't it be great if New Zealand had birds everywhere and we didn't have to worry about rats?" Every animal has it's natural place in the habitat for a reason. Humans do not understand the purpose of natural order until it is greatly disrupted. Peyton D.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-595859379914711075.post-46460381764714887922016-11-04T02:17:26.916-05:002016-11-04T02:17:26.916-05:00This week's reading assignment "The Big K...This week's reading assignment "The Big Kill" was right up my alley. I am in love with wildlife and that love for wildlife and animals is what drove me towards my major. When talking about wildlife, one always questions the lengths we have to go for the preservation of it. In the reading it highlights behaviors found within some of the wildlife. On page 176 he says "wouldn't it be great if New Zealand had birds everywhere and we didn't have to worry about rats?". In summary, if the bird population goes up, their rat problem goes down. The circle of life is not to be tampered with or disrupted and i think that this reading does a really good job of getting that across. It just has a way of showing how everything is connected. Miya Evansnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-595859379914711075.post-46178713500689522332016-11-03T14:27:32.683-05:002016-11-03T14:27:32.683-05:00Something that stuck out is how the animals in New...Something that stuck out is how the animals in New Zealand are considered to be very unique to their identity (167). It was described that the species in New Zealand are, pretty much, as important as the Constitution is in America. With that, it made the killing of the other species a little more understandable. In a way, they found the species to be really special and self-identifying so it would be important to protect the at all cost.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14544297765751655480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-595859379914711075.post-15569487716677705372016-11-01T23:41:20.349-05:002016-11-01T23:41:20.349-05:00One point I found that was ironic was when Callagh...One point I found that was ironic was when Callaghan compared his own plan to that of the Apollo program (176). The extermination of predators in New Zealand seemed like a far fetched idea in my opinion because it would be difficult to do so without harming any other animals on the islands. Jeremiah B.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-595859379914711075.post-26475210557405740342016-11-01T18:21:05.063-05:002016-11-01T18:21:05.063-05:00On page 168 the author quotes a man saying "....On page 168 the author quotes a man saying "...people don't like poisons, but they like rats even less" . This is pretty funny to me because when you think about it, we do a lot of things that we don't like or agree with just because we don't agree with something else more. Later on page 168 the author talks about seeing a sign as you entered an island that read "Have you checked for rats, mice and seed?". This point shows just how serious they take keeping these types of pests out of their lives. De'Abrion Joynerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09529731172818948538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-595859379914711075.post-58007067067690767522016-11-01T15:12:35.823-05:002016-11-01T15:12:35.823-05:00In this article, I found it ironic that after cast...In this article, I found it ironic that after casting away the sirocco birds they were unable to get rid of, or even control, the infestation of rats in New Zealand. They even went so far as to lament how they would rather have a bird infestation afterwards (176). It was sort of karma, the unwanted infestation after trying to play God. It reminded me of the locusts in the Bible. To me, this is profound because God is known to punish those who interfere with his plans and question his judgement.Cheniya A.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-595859379914711075.post-58437273813871769702016-11-01T13:28:18.435-05:002016-11-01T13:28:18.435-05:00Elizabeth Kolbert's "The Big Kill" w...Elizabeth Kolbert's "The Big Kill" was a little disturbing for my taste. I find it revolting that so many people speak of and treat other species like they exist to serve us and that they are beneath us somehow, even though we are all, in fact, animals. The only reason we are considered to exist at the top of the food chain is because we have a high level of cognition, and we still use shortcuts for our thought processing. One irony I found about New Zealand's destruction of their wildlife is, "to save the trees, the Adsheads decided to eliminate the possums," (Page 163). I don't think it's acceptable to eradicate another species in the hopes of saving another; our ecosystem simply doesn't work like that.<br />-Kathryn HatchesKathryn Hatcheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12597119476894352983noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-595859379914711075.post-82785197325590192092016-11-01T12:28:22.700-05:002016-11-01T12:28:22.700-05:00On page 167 in "The Big Kill" article,th...On page 167 in "The Big Kill" article,the sentence "I say to people, If you want your grandkids to see kiwi only in sanctuaries, well, that's where we're headed. And that's why we need to use pretty aggressive tools to try to turn this around." I feel as if they were trying to control the world and who inhabits it. The animals that were made were put here for a reason.If someone is here that we don't like or want here, we can't just kill all the people we don't like. That is unethical, as well as the killing off of species that we're not very fond of.<br /><br />- Nyla G. Nyla Gantthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13196643003347273558noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-595859379914711075.post-42277840156234670112016-11-01T11:04:55.443-05:002016-11-01T11:04:55.443-05:00I find this article ironic because growing up and ...I find this article ironic because growing up and being in several different science classes, I learned that every organism in an environment plays a role. So on page 165, when it stated that New Zealand's most prominent scientist convinced people to kill all mammalian predators, I wondered were the things I learned about false or is this scientist unaware of the effects his plan will have?Derick B.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-595859379914711075.post-60432872667249126852016-11-01T10:00:43.449-05:002016-11-01T10:00:43.449-05:00I personally found this section intriguing to lear...I personally found this section intriguing to learn about, but also somewhat unrealistic. I am strong believer in animal rights and have been a vegetarian since 7th grade. Although I don't particularly like possums or rats, it's not ethical to try to gid rid of an entire species (and also not really possible). <br /><br />On page 176, Callaghan refers to possums and rats as "damned mustelids." He also says to get rid of the rats, they have to have more birds in New Zealand. That is definitely an interesting theory and I had never heard of that before. I didn't think people particularly would want a bunch of birds arounf since they leave droppings on cars, houses, etc. <br /><br />All in all, this was interesting but I'm glad we don't have this mindset on wildlife in the United States.<br /><br />Natasha HandyNatashahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04857658587522946401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-595859379914711075.post-49230392998911311332016-10-31T12:10:20.481-05:002016-10-31T12:10:20.481-05:00This article made me a little uncomfortable. It fe...This article made me a little uncomfortable. It felt like they were trying to play God by picking and choosing what species "belonged" and which didn't. Who are we, as animals ourselves, to say which animals can or can't inhabit certain areas? I would say that humans are predators as well, so why is it okay for us to be here and not other predators? This quote from page 176 is what makes me the most uncomfortable, "Let's get rid of all the predators — all the damned mustelids, all the rats, all the possums — from the mainland." Just because we can get rid of them, doesn't mean that we should.<br /><br />Aliyah B.Aliyah Butlernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-595859379914711075.post-10773946425031779532016-10-30T22:37:17.317-05:002016-10-30T22:37:17.317-05:00I didn't understand the concept of killing one...I didn't understand the concept of killing one animal to save another. The ecosystem wont thrive if you don't have a predator/prey complex that controls population. Also, every animal has a predator, so in order to follow the 'kill one animal to save another' logic, you'd basically have to kill everything, really. This article didn't make much sense to me. <br /><br />Fiona H.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12621902331781037399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-595859379914711075.post-31254469935818464022016-10-30T21:36:55.486-05:002016-10-30T21:36:55.486-05:00The one point that I found interesting was that on...The one point that I found interesting was that on page 167, they talked about getting rid of all the predators on the mainland. That might sound good in theory and a great way to ensure your survival but a society can't function that way. In theory, we would love a world without chaos, violence, war, and all the bad things and bad people in the world but what kind of world would that be? It is sad, but we need bad things in the world to have balance in society. If we never experience pain and loss, we will not learn to appreciate life that we have. Every time we have faced pain, loss, and suffering, we reflect on how lucky we are and how life is way too precious because it can be cut at anytime, so we begin to do things we would not normally do in order to grow as people, and if we can't grow as a society, then after us, society wont and cant exist anymore.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15206684547596255499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-595859379914711075.post-33714532738820226422016-10-29T18:49:56.312-05:002016-10-29T18:49:56.312-05:00One thing I found profound was on page 164. It sai...One thing I found profound was on page 164. It said "In New Zealand anything with fur and beady little eyes is an invader." It went on to talk about how children became little exterminators. This entire paragraph is extremely weird and doesn't seem to have much logic. <br />Sydney J.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-595859379914711075.post-86297833558129695172016-10-29T10:35:01.787-05:002016-10-29T10:35:01.787-05:00one point concerning the irony of exterminating ce...one point concerning the irony of exterminating certain mammals to protect other species that was particularly profound to me was on page (167) they talked about getting rid of all the predator animals off of the mainland. The iron in this the fact of in order to have a thriving ecosystem , it's needs predators and prey. With the predator prey phenomenon there wouldn't be a ecosystem in the first place. One species will become over populated having an unblance to the ecosystem / habitat. Tatyana C.https://www.blogger.com/profile/07456301015089546747noreply@blogger.com