tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-595859379914711075.post5060133461276785780..comments2024-03-19T18:51:58.496-05:00Comments on Cultural Front: Bargains and OutliersH. Rambsyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16862209871277442972noreply@blogger.comBlogger39125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-595859379914711075.post-12565348234487255662009-12-09T17:47:28.370-06:002009-12-09T17:47:28.370-06:00In the KIPP schools, they have a high sense of wor...In the KIPP schools, they have a high sense of work ethic and that is essential to succeed in anything you do. Success is based on how hard you work and how self-motivated you are to do that work. If you don't follow a strict schedule when you do your work, it isn't helping. I feel that if more things were expected out of students from elementary to high school, there would be a higher success rate of college students, and they would develop good habits for the work place.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10775962668498604047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-595859379914711075.post-86106567340091300362009-12-09T12:24:25.266-06:002009-12-09T12:24:25.266-06:00At the collegiate level, I believe that KIPP-like ...At the collegiate level, I believe that KIPP-like strategies will only aid a student to as far as the effort that that student is willing to make. Programs such as Haley’s Scholar are great in providing the tools to attain success but it is up to the individual student to actually make those progressions. It would be difficult to try to have a KIPP academy at the collegiate level when everyone’s pursuit for success and career path is very different. At the grade school level, everyone’s goal is to prepare for college and the curriculum is standardized. However, at the collegiate level, everyone has different majors and career aspirations making it more difficult to accommodate to each individual.Raquel Davisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-595859379914711075.post-71248643408078256312009-12-09T09:56:01.549-06:002009-12-09T09:56:01.549-06:00I do not think a KIPP academy style program would ...I do not think a KIPP academy style program would work on a college level. While a child is obligated to attend elementary and high school, a student chooses to go to college and further their academic careers. To impose even more rules on that would seem unnecessary.<br /><br />On the other hand, the standards of work with KIPP could be applied to a college experience, but they must be implemented by choice.I think many students choose to do this by utilizing the student success center.Chris jonesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-595859379914711075.post-87145816006399653982009-12-09T01:10:45.712-06:002009-12-09T01:10:45.712-06:00While reading this chapter, at first didn't th...While reading this chapter, at first didn't think that KIPP would be anything special, however continuing to read I saw KIPP was actually a pretty intense program.<br /><br />I definitely can appreciate the goal/ mission of KIPP as well as their success, but I also agree with Ian Caveny in saying that success should not be at the very center of someone's life. "I personally believe God" should be the center of one's life- but that's a entirely different topic for me.<br /><br />As far us here at the university and really anyone, there are definitely some things that could be taken from the KIPP academy and applied. One is definitely the work ethic (yet not consuming your entire life with it,) I believe those kid's work ethic is excellent. I also believe that for the easiest transition into such an intense work regime and success prepping lifestyle is have many others right by your side going through the same things you are. Knowing that you have many others studying the same material, putting the same hours, and dealing with the same struggles makes it so so so much easier to not only get by but do it successfully while also helping others get there with you.<br /><br />A program should definitely be up-started, or one modified to bring about such a community that produces success. The Johnetta- Haley Academy can very very easily create that type of successful environment. Where everyone is motivated to succeed.Joe Hineshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05248665980030549018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-595859379914711075.post-83358824834937837942009-12-08T16:50:13.899-06:002009-12-08T16:50:13.899-06:00KIPP like strategies that we need to adopt for aca...KIPP like strategies that we need to adopt for academic success would be a better success center for students to go to . The success center that we have is mainly for math and not so much for liberal arts. I was a tutor at my old college and I cannot tell you how many of my peers said that they would have dropped the class they were in and even out of college if we did not have the success centers we did. We had two success centers one was for the liberal arts class and the other one was for the math and science classes. But I think the most important technique to learn and master is support. All some students need is consistent support and they will excel through school.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-595859379914711075.post-75312983565775663302009-12-02T10:46:00.398-06:002009-12-02T10:46:00.398-06:00I enjoyed reading about the KIPP Academy but what ...I enjoyed reading about the KIPP Academy but what concerned me most was that students as well need to be socail and participate in activities as well as school work. I strongly believe that KIPP Academy is a good thing because minority student are being prepared for college and the real world. Alot of times due to financial reasons students are taught differently, where Im from kids don't take school seriously and If this KIPP Academy existed when I went to school then the success rate of minorities will be alot higher just like the KIPP students. In chicago alot of grammer schools and some high school are going all year round because of the poor academic output and also he violence that happens over the summers while students are on vacation. I believe that this is a good thing and hopefully it will show improvement not only academically but in the environment as well.<br /><br />As for SIUE I agree with everyone else when I say that the student success center is a great way to further a students success. Also the meetings we have with guest speakers are informative as well. Students have to want to succeed and have the drive to succeed. Adopting KIPP at the college level will include alot less activities that a lot of student are not willing to give up.Taleah Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09329810730721717562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-595859379914711075.post-52841511861936104202009-12-01T01:26:45.716-06:002009-12-01T01:26:45.716-06:00I agree with Natalia H. I believe that it is impor...I agree with Natalia H. I believe that it is important for students to want academic and professional success before they can achieve it. If a student wants to be academically successful, he or she will take advantage of the resources that are given to help achieve academic success. I believe that there are a lot of resources available to minority students that promote academic success. However, it is the student's decision to whether or not he or she will take advantage of the resources that can help them academically.Olufunmilola Ajalanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-595859379914711075.post-5796211577107138042009-11-30T19:56:44.075-06:002009-11-30T19:56:44.075-06:00The KIPP Academy is an excellent educational progr...The KIPP Academy is an excellent educational program giving minorities in harsh neighborhoods the opportunity to succeed in school. I think that SIUE already has in place ideals from the KIPP Academy such as the 4-3-2-1 guide to success and the student success center. There is no need to try to have an actual KIPP in place in college because one has to go to school, study, do homework when required, etc. On top of that is working and let’s be real college students want a personal and social life. I feel that KIPP retracts from having that balance in life and can in a way be detrimental to one’s overall well-being.Jermel L.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-595859379914711075.post-54551849146542399862009-11-30T16:29:26.861-06:002009-11-30T16:29:26.861-06:00I agree with Josh. Being a college student comes w...I agree with Josh. Being a college student comes with more time management as we are all in the process of becoming successful independent individuals. Choosing to go to school at a collegiate level already shows that the individual is choosing their educational environment and i do not think that the KIPP Academy techniques would be necessary. We know that building someone's work ethics has to come from within and cannot be forced on someone specially not a college student that has a million and one things going on. <br /><br />As for Haley Scholars, this whole thing about blog posting is new to all of us and i've been having difficulties keeping up with it. I have so much more other stuff going on that i somehow cannot even reach my emails at time, but it has to be done in order to be helped financially by the university. I think that is a KIPP technique and maybe it should have been placed upon since the beginning of the school year to adapt.Roanda Maldonadonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-595859379914711075.post-1391565782692224902009-11-30T10:37:30.905-06:002009-11-30T10:37:30.905-06:00Ian Caveny and Shawn C, despite having two very co...Ian Caveny and Shawn C, despite having two very conflicting view points, together form my opinion on how the Johnetta Haley Scholarship Program, like KIPP, can help minorities succeed and reach a collegiate setting. By developing a strong sense of work ethic early on in life,like the one seen in the Outliers, minority youth would be better prepared for the life altering slam that hits a student when they enter the "real world" or even college. By molding and shaping them early, they would be better equipped to succeed.<br /><br />On the other hand, I believe that education shouldn't overwhelm a student's life or become the center of their universe. Yes, getting a sound education definitely impacts one's life and consequently can determine the quality of one's living conditions, but there are also other important aspects to life as well. Marita had to make a ton of sacrifices to succeed and perform well in school. My only fear is that by school taking over such a huge role in someone's life, they may not succeed in other areas, or may sacrifice something that in the end, they will regret.<br /><br />Overall, as a large group, it is important that we adopt strong work ethics and dedicate more time to our studies. While doing so though, it is important to still keep a healthy balance of living a normal life outside of the school zone.Abagail Thompsonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-595859379914711075.post-43735289988000074562009-11-29T15:08:45.653-06:002009-11-29T15:08:45.653-06:00I’m not quite sure that a KIPP-like program would ...I’m not quite sure that a KIPP-like program would be beneficial at the collegiate level. I believe I’m leaning more towards the side that it would not. As with getting older, things that are not school-oriented require attention. This is something that young students at the KIPP Academy do not have to deal with. Also, success takes initiative. I feel that at SIUE, I’m given the proper tools to prepare myself for all that class entails. But, in the end, it’s my choice to utilize those tools. <br />The university has implemented great bargains like the Student Success Center. Also, it is very simple to find a tutor, study group, or live in a Focused Interest Community.Paris Owensnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-595859379914711075.post-83899518337985593182009-11-25T13:00:18.046-06:002009-11-25T13:00:18.046-06:00I think that KIPP "bargains" could be im...I think that KIPP "bargains" could be implemented on campus, but only as an option. The idea of having school year round option would be a great idea since it would allow you to graduate early. Having students take classes in the summer time would free up spaces for class normally taken in the fall or spring semesters that are normally filled to capacity. On the other hand some people still would like to have a break between semesters so keeping year round schooling an option would appease them as well.Morris Pearson, Jr.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-595859379914711075.post-31511385716199169192009-11-24T20:18:57.532-06:002009-11-24T20:18:57.532-06:00Actually, before reading the “Marita’s Bargain” ch...Actually, before reading the “Marita’s Bargain” chapter I would always sit and think of things that the university could do in order to ensure academic and professional success among its students. Coincidentally, one of my ideas is closely related to the KIPP strategies discussed in this chapter. At first I questioned if more time dedicated to learning is the key to academic success; however, after reading this chapter I strongly believe that if students are allowed more time to learn and ask questions, then students are more likely to excel academically. In other words, the university offering year long courses is an important KIPP-like strategy that is likely to guarantee the success of more students. Currently, students have one semester to learn everything they are expected to know about the subject they are studying, and then be graded on a comprehensive final exam. One semester is only about four months, including holiday breaks. This leads to professors rushing through their lectures and spending as little time as possible on the different topics. They just really don’t have the time to go in depth about things and still cover everything that needs to be covered. Students don’t have the opportunity to really master subjects because they are not receiving as much detailed information as they could with more time. Of course this strategy would slow the college process, but there would be more professionals with more skill and knowledge about what they do, and more college students experiencing collegiate success.Kamrey Mcnutthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12046694880718639393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-595859379914711075.post-64619269204407855232009-11-20T14:16:21.719-06:002009-11-20T14:16:21.719-06:00I don’t really think a Kipp Academy is not needed ...I don’t really think a Kipp Academy is not needed at the college level; once a person makes it to college, success is a personal responsibility. If a student has their priorities straight then school should be at the top of the list and there should be no problems with success. On the other hand if that student doesn’t stay on top of their game then they have no one else to blame but themselves. There are resources available at our school, it’s just up to the student to take advantage of them.Tricia Johnsonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-595859379914711075.post-26997081922949674452009-11-20T14:12:59.462-06:002009-11-20T14:12:59.462-06:00I agree with many of the posts above. KIPP is a gr...I agree with many of the posts above. KIPP is a great program for students gradeschool through highschool, but it is much too late to try to add a program like KIPP to a college. University students have to want to learn. It is not up to administrators or parents to make their students succeed. It is all up to the student. <br /><br />I believe that forcing a college student to engage in a program like KIPP would do more harm than good. I have seen this situation in several of my fellow schoolmates. Once a student is out of the nest they have to begin to experience things for themselves. Having administrators on your back constantly will make students rebel, just as having parents on you does.<br /><br />Like I mentioned earlier KIPP is an amazing program and system, but once youh hit college its too lateDaniel SHieldsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-595859379914711075.post-78641131932013888192009-11-19T22:21:05.295-06:002009-11-19T22:21:05.295-06:00I also agree with Ian Caveny and others; KIPP does...I also agree with Ian Caveny and others; KIPP does not belong at the university level. Once a student reaches college, he or she has the choice of success or failure. In general, I think that KIPPs could have long term negative effects if students are over worked. It sounds to me like students could easily become "burned out" from the intensities of the scheduling, sacrifices, and expectations of a KIPP. <br />I also think that SIUE has a tremendous amount of resources available to the student body. Whomever wants to utilize the resources is more than welcome to do so. Again, success is the responsibility of the individual.<br /><br />k phouangmalayAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-595859379914711075.post-56364405162533726152009-11-19T18:53:34.981-06:002009-11-19T18:53:34.981-06:00I think on a college level it is important to emph...I think on a college level it is important to emphasize the idea to just give college students a chance to point that all those opportunities are excellent but what's more important is the have the access to use ones talents. As minorities we lack the materials to use our full abilities as well as having a chance to portray our abilities. As far as KIPP I think it would be hard to manage the possibilities that KIPP offers because once you reach college level the mindsets of adults are different from children concerning their education.I think once your in college level you begin to motivate yourself because now you're paying for your education.Denita Campbellnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-595859379914711075.post-59875465848710723812009-11-19T16:07:29.200-06:002009-11-19T16:07:29.200-06:00A person's success is based on how much work t...A person's success is based on how much work they are willing to put in. If they really want to make it somewhere in life then they know they will have to put forth some kind of effort. Something that can be done to help is just encouragement. The more support a person has the better they will be. When students find a group that just wants to be there for them they will strive to do great not just for the group but for themselves.Charnelle Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15614146837008283123noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-595859379914711075.post-56031342119531269472009-11-19T08:07:03.618-06:002009-11-19T08:07:03.618-06:00I definately agree with Josh and Ian. I do not be...I definately agree with Josh and Ian. I do not believe that KIPP is appropriate at the college level because by this time we are now adults and being an adult means making a decision as to what amount of time we want or need to put into something. We all have different standards for success and what may be important may not be important to another individual. The important thing behind this section is that we are all are on a level playing field before we enter college.Tina Messengernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-595859379914711075.post-53781294750443495472009-11-19T02:20:53.763-06:002009-11-19T02:20:53.763-06:00To ensure success at the collegiate level, I also ...To ensure success at the collegiate level, I also believe having good work ethic is the key. If one is driven to achieve goals, they will most likely overcome obstacles that come in their way. In college there are many choices an individual can make, but only by making the right ones does an individual stand at the top.<br /><br />Some "bargains" that the university should offer to help create success are more Focused Interest Groups in dorms and increased tutoring sessions around campus.K. Quonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-595859379914711075.post-71601648346212414792009-11-18T23:54:02.551-06:002009-11-18T23:54:02.551-06:00latoya b
KIPP like strategies that we need to adop...latoya b<br />KIPP like strategies that we need to adopt for academic success would be lengthening the number of hours students are in class, so we can somehow increase what students are learning. We could also switch to year around schooling. Year around schooling seems like it works pretty well. Its unfortunate that we will be in school while other students are out of school for the summer, but going to school for a few months at a time and taking a couple weeks break all year around does not sound that bad. Doing this will help increase academic output just like it did for KIPP students and for students that did work over the summer.LaToya Bondnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-595859379914711075.post-28920325823357691582009-11-18T23:51:24.306-06:002009-11-18T23:51:24.306-06:00The KIPP Academy did have great ways of improving ...The KIPP Academy did have great ways of improving academic success. The idea of year round school might be very beneficial to some, but for others it might not be. Each person should question themselves as to whether they would perform better in that type of school year or the school year including a summer break. I also agree with the the statement Shanna made about high expectations. For some people the standards are not raised high enough for real results to come, but if the bar is raised and it stays raised either students would apply more effort or start to look at other options.<br /><br />As far as other things that could be offered to better student success, for one I agree with Josh that the Student Success Center is a great way to improve academic progress. It gives students another place to spend their time during the late or early hours, and with the environment that is set it encourages students to study while there. Also some kind of incentive could be offered to students for achieving certain GPA or similar academic achievement. But something would have to be offered that students value, because it seems like some of the current incentives for academic success does not draw enough motivation.Robert Connornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-595859379914711075.post-70479008648081717192009-11-18T23:49:50.798-06:002009-11-18T23:49:50.798-06:00By instituting programs like KIPP on the universit...By instituting programs like KIPP on the university level we increase the likelihood of African American retention as well as success in academics. A strategy that should be implemented is year-round school, although a break is sometimes necessary in order to rejuvenated and refresh our minds I believe that it is important for us to also keep our minds active. I think that universities should make a larger effort to recruit students from underprivileged neighborhoods and environments.Kacee Aldridgenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-595859379914711075.post-64562904203167669112009-11-18T23:45:18.308-06:002009-11-18T23:45:18.308-06:00Erik Sanders
First, the story about the KIPP Acad...Erik Sanders<br /><br />First, the story about the KIPP Academy is really inspiring. It made me think of "Stand and Deliver," the movie about latino students who through hard work and a pushing teacher achieved outstanding mathematics scores. I find it interesting that in the case of KIPP students, mathematics seems to be their strong suit.<br /><br />I feel that one KIPP-like strategy that could definitely be utilized at the collegiate level is getting to class early and staying all day. Too often people get deterred from going to early classes, sign up for late ones, and waste a good part of the day sleeping or watching TBS. I believe that if you can get up, come to school, and make use of your time in between classes, your academics will improve tremendously. In that way, once the "school day" is complete, one can go home for a bit of leisure before knocking out what you did not finish during the day. It is my belief that those types of habits reduce stress and anxiety as things are not left until the last minute. I realize it would be extremely difficult for a university to entice all students to make use of their free time, but maybe a rewards program could be initiated for showing up to "study halls" or group studying sessions. <br /><br />By plowing through a long day at school, one may better comprehend what the real world will be like. Not many professions facilitate the ability to work for fifty minutes and then take a three hour nap. By staying all day, the students are better prepared for an eight hour day, which by all means can be extremely fatiguing on a person's mind and body. <br /><br />For those reasons, I feel incorporating a KIPP-like school day would be beneficial for university students.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06011380555244493965noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-595859379914711075.post-63129549989833480052009-11-18T23:29:31.697-06:002009-11-18T23:29:31.697-06:00That's a hard question to answer. Someone ment...That's a hard question to answer. Someone mentioned that KIPP at the collegiate level may be impossible. I agree. A lot of college students have things outside of school that require their time, while younger students don't have those responsibilities.<br /><br />If it were possible for a KIPP like program to happen at the collegiate level, students will have to be willing to spend less of their time in other non-educational endeavors. I don't know if people are willing to make that bargain.Katie D.noreply@blogger.com